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Plus: Founder Dara on the future of AI-human interactions...
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Today, weâre talking with Dara Ladjevardian, Co-Founder and CEO of Delphi.
Delphi is an AI platform that allows users to scale their expertise through personalized conversations via text, voice, and video. Inspired by Daraâs experience of wanting to preserve his grandfatherâs wisdom, Delphi allows users to interact one-on-one with digital clones that replicate not just what someone knows but how they think.
Since launching, Delphi has attracted a range of users, including coaches, authors, influencers, and business leaders who want to extend their impact. The platform integrates with tools like WhatsApp, Slack, and personal websites, making it easy for users to engage with their clones in different ways.
Delphi recently secured seed funding from Founders Fund, Lux Capital, and Balaji Srinivasan, and theyâre wrapping up a creator-focused round with backers like Codie Sanchez, Tiago Forte, Matthew Hussey and Nas Daily. This new funding will help Delphi further its mission to make personalized expertise widely accessible.
In this conversation, Dara talks about building Delphi, the challenges of making digital cloning intuitive, and whatâs next as they push the boundaries of AI and human interaction.
Letâs dive in âĄď¸
Read time: 8 mins
Our Chat with Dara đŹ
Dara - welcome to Cerebral Valley! First off, give us a bit about your background and what led you to found Delphi?
Hey! My name is Dara, and Iâm the Cofounder & CEO of Delphi.
A bit about me: I was born in Houston, Texas, to immigrant parents. If you're a child of immigrants, or you know someone who is, you'll understand that you're often told to figure things out on your own, without asking for help. So, growing up, I never really had a mentor. I studied physics, computer science, and math at Georgetown, and then moved to San Francisco to work at C3 AI, where I focused on building NLP-based applications for government and oil and gas companies.
I was closely following GPTâs developments, and when GPT-3 was released, I decided to leave C3, move to LA, and start my first company, which was called Friday. Friday was an AI assistant designed to help parents with shoppingâthings like buying batteries, light bulbs, and other essentials that you always remember you need but often forget to actually buy. Parents could simply text a phone number, and the assistant would take care of it.
What if you could buy anything with just a text? đ¤
No more credit cards.
No more checkouts.
No more infinite scrolling.Just think, and receive.
Well, now you can.
Introducing Friday, the GPT3-powered personal assistant for conversational commerce đ
â Dara (@daraladje)
2:59 AM ⢠Jul 11, 2021
At the time, I was a solo founder. I hadnât raised any money, and I didnât have any advisors or mentors. Around then, I was reading a book about my grandfather, who had been a very successful businessman in Iran before the revolution. I found myself really wanting to ask for his adviceânot just about his life, but what he would do in my situation, especially since I had no idea what I was doing.
Since I was already working with LLMs, I created a version 1.0 Delphi clone of my grandfather. It was incredibly therapeutic, especially because he had suffered a stroke two years earlier and couldnât really speak. The clone turned out to be useful tooâit helped me think through the kind of business I wanted to build.
1/ The first @withdelphi Clone was of my grandpa ("Baba"), a man of high integrity.
He was a larger than life figure, so much so that it was my desire to learn from him that led me to starting Delphi in the first place.
Here are some of my favorite lessons from him...
â Dara (@daraladje)
3:04 PM ⢠Jul 11, 2024
Eventually, Friday was acquired, and I moved to Miami to work at OpenStore. While I was there, I became fascinated with how we learn from others. We read books, watch YouTube videos, listen to podcasts, follow people on Twitter or LinkedInâbut none of that information is personalized to us. It doesnât adapt to our changing life circumstances, and it doesnât hold us accountable. Studies in education show that one-on-one learning is the most effective, but most people canât afford a $10,000 coaching session, nor are they lucky enough to have access to top-tier experts.
On the flip side, there are experts who want to scale their knowledge. They write content or hire teams to train others in their way of thinking, but that often dilutes their unique essence. I met my co-founder at OpenStore, and together, we decided to start Delphiâa digital cloning platform that captures your expertise and allows you to scale one-on-one, personalized conversations over text, voice, and video.
Give us a top level overview of Delphi - how would you describe the startup to those who are maybe less familiar with you?
The best way to put it is that we're scaling one-on-one interactions. This is really the next medium of communication and education. When you read a book, it's passive. Maybe youâre imagining a conversation with the author as you read through different passages, but now with Delphi, it actually responds. It asks follow-up questions. It's a whole new way of interacting with someone else's knowledge.
Who are your users today? Whoâs finding the most value in what youâre building with Delphi?
So, there are definitely phases to Delphi in terms of who we're focusing on because there are two groups of usersâsupply and demand. In the long term, this is a marketplace. You have people who want to learn from or talk to someone, and then you have those who want to do the talking and teaching. We started by focusing on the supply side. Iâd say about 70% of our customers on the supply side are what I call knowledge-based professionals. These are coaches, authors, influencers, course creators, experts, and thought leaders. The other 30% are business ownersâCEOs who are looking to scale themselves for customers or new employees who want to learn how the business works or how they would handle specific situations. We also have a small portion of users who are using Delphi for legacy, family preservation, and digital immortality. I think thatâs going to continue to grow over time, but we purposely didnât start there because itâs tough to move out of that market once youâre in it.
What if the worldâs foremost experts could scale their reach infinitely, making their knowledge and experiences accessible to everyone?
As of today, they can.
Excited to unveil our digital cloning platform @with_delphi for public use.
â Dara (@daraladje)
4:50 PM ⢠Dec 13, 2023
Thereâs been an explosion of interest in multimodal and agentic workflows. How has that shaped the way youâre thinking about building Delphi?
We support all mediums of communication on Delphi - text chats, voice calls, and now video callsâŚwho knows, maybe holograms will be next. Obviously, we have a lot of product challengesâlike making it super intuitive to create a clone and ensuring itâs genuinely usefulâbut the main technical challenge is capturing not just what someone knows, but how they think. Can we accurately predict human responses in entirely new situations and make the clone behave as the person would?
Imagine sharing your insights, face-to-face, without limits.
Announcing the next step in digital communications & learning - Delphi Video đš
Delphi can capture how you think, sound, and now, look, allowing you to scale your unique presence infinitely đđź
â Dara (@daraladje)
4:00 PM ⢠Aug 6, 2024
The concept of an AI clone is definitely pretty unique, even by todayâs standards. How have you earliest users engaged with the idea - any surprises?
Brand is super important for Delphi, kind of like how it is for CAA, the agency in LA. When you walk into the CAA office, the ground is granite, it sparkles, and you immediately feel like youâre in a special place. You think, âI want CAA to represent me.â Delphi has a similar vibe because people are coming to us with their data and saying, âDelphi is going to represent my identity to my audience.â So trust is crucial. At Delphi, only the person themselves can create a clone. I manually verify every single person that comes through, and any data used to train a clone is owned by themâit isnât shared with any external providers. That trust is so important to us.
Itâs been really cool to see people interacting with these clones and getting real value out of it. Some people will have a 30-minute call with a dating coach clone, and then theyâll come back later. Itâs interesting when someone talks to my clone and then emails me, saying, âHey, I spoke to your clone, would love to hop on a call.â When we finally get on a call, our conversation is almost deeper because they already know so much about me.
Almost every inbound email I get starts this way.
Clones augment relationships.
â Dara (@daraladje)
4:07 PM ⢠Aug 7, 2024
Thereâs definitely some pushback against cloning, and I think part of it is the term we use. Some people are a little afraid or even offended, like, âWhy would I talk to a clone? Thatâs almost offensive.â But the way I see it, a clone is just an artifact of a human being, the same way a book is. Youâre just experiencing a new medium of their mind. Itâs not meant to replace them; if anything, itâs providing access where there wasnât any before, and itâs enhancing that relationship.
Funnily enough, some customers are actually raising money to build entire 1-1 businesses, just on their clone.
1/ We have 3 customers raising funds for clone-based businesses:
⢠Athlete's clone powering a personalized sports coaching app
⢠Cybersecurity expert's clone offering 24/7 threat analysis
⢠Health guru's clone driving adaptive wellness at scaleThis...is the Clone Economyđ
â Dara (@daraladje)
4:37 PM ⢠Aug 1, 2024
How do you view the split between consumer and business interest in a platform like Delphi?
The demand side use cases are really driven by the supply side. For example, a dating coach can create their clone, monetize it, and it becomes a valuable tool for consumers. Weâve started by focusing on the supply side because we need to prove that cloning can actually be useful for people before we create a consumer app. To build a consumer app, you'd typically have to do what Character AI did, which is creating bots of people without their permissionâand I donât think thatâs the right approach for this business. Now, we're starting to double down on our efforts to develop the consumer platform, where you have a goal and can be recommended the right people to talk to for your specific objectives. So yeah, the supply and demand sides are very much intertwined.
How do you plan on Delphi progressing over the next 6-12 months? Anything specific on your roadmap that new or existing customers should be excited for?
The number one thing we're focusing on is clone proactivity. This means having clones that can intelligently follow up with you after a conversation and keep you accountable. Right now, clones rely too much on consumer intent, which doesnât make them much better than a course or a book. But people want guidance toward their goals. So, instead of just reading a book on how to be more present, you could subscribe to that author's clone journey, where the clone keeps you accountable, messages you daily, hops on a call, and makes sure youâre applying the knowledge. I'm really excited about this because itâs going to have a real impact on consumers and open up new monetization channels for clone creators.
Course completion rates are at a low
TikTok destroyed our attention spans
Too many people have a stack of unread books promising skills they'll never learn
Podcasts are popular but don't drive change
The next "book" will be an interactive experience that guarantees mastery
â Dara (@daraladje)
1:04 AM ⢠Jun 9, 2024
We're also revamping the consumer platform so that as you talk to clones, each one becomes more personalized to you. You'll be able to get recommended topics to learn from based on your goals and clones to learn from based on what you're trying to achieve. Those are the two main focuses right now. Beyond that, we're really zeroed in on improving the product. The difference between what we have now and the goal of actually capturing how someone thinks is almost infinite. We're essentially trying to recreate a human, so it's going to take a while to get to that point where you think, "Holy shit, this really is the person."
How do you measure the impact that Delphi is having on your users? Do you tend to look at conversation length, depth of interaction etc.?
It really varies depending on the customer. Some customers prefer shorter conversations where they can get straight to the answer, while others, like those in coaching or dating, might want longer, more in-depth interactions. We usually know pretty quickly if a customer is unhappy with their cloneâif they keep paying and continue using the service, thatâs a good sign their clone is representing them well. If it wasnât, theyâd probably stop using us.
From a technical perspective, we're working on quantitative evaluation metrics to track how accurate and effective the clones are. But honestly, we base a lot of it on customer satisfaction. When we first started, we struggled to get people on board, and when they did create a clone, many would say, âThis sucks, this doesnât sound like me,â and then leave. But we donât see that happening as much anymore, and we hope to keep it that way.
Lastly, tell us a little bit about the team and culture at Delphi. How big is the company now, and what do you look for in prospective team members that are joining?
We're a small team of nine peopleâit's me, my co-founder, four engineers, a designer, our head of Ops, and an intern. Everyone here is super scrappy and motivated, with a bit of a chip on their shoulder. We're all based in San Francisco, working mostly in person, and while six or seven-day workweeks aren't required, you'll find that a lot of us are doing just that. The mission drives us, and the in-person culture really fuels our ambition to be the best. We've also got a strong focus on learningâthere's a book club for both the engineering and marketing sides, which I think is pretty unique to what we've built here.
As for hiring, there's one role that really stands out right now, though we're always open to the right value-aligned people. The main role we're looking for is what I call an Applied AI Engineer. This role is all about helping us improve the "clone brain." Itâs a high-ownership positionânot for someone looking for mentorship, a nine-to-five, or foundational research and model training. It's perfect for someone whoâs excited about applying AI to capture someone's mind and enable personalized expertise. This role will need a mix of creativity, knowledge of knowledge graphs, LLMs, retrieval architectures, and things like that.
We have laid out the foundation for creating a digital clone (text, voice, & video). Now, the fun part begins.
We're growing fast, and we are hiring (in person in SF).
Below are our values. If any of them speak to you, I'd love to chat.
â Dara (@daraladje)
12:50 AM ⢠Aug 7, 2024
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